Thinking One Step Ahead to Grow Your Business via PR with Dmitry Dragilev of JustReachOut.io

Indie Hackers

Summary

In this insightful conversation, Dmitry Dragilev shares his pragmatic, step-by-step approach to Public Relations for indie hackers and small business founders. He moves away from the 'PR stunt' mentality, arguing that consistent, data-driven outreach to local media is more reliable for growth than waiting for a lucky, one-off viral hit. Dmitry emphasizes building relationships with journalists by answering their specific queries, testing product messaging through small-scale pitches before building, and using PR as a long-term lever for SEO, ultimately advocating for a balanced, sustainable life over the 'growth-at-all-costs' workaholic mindset.

Chapters

  1. 0:00PR Strategies for Growth
  2. 6:48Calculating ROI on PR
  3. 14:01Finding Journalist Requests
  4. 27:24Data-Driven PR Pitches
  5. 39:06Using JustReachOut.io
  6. 51:52Avoiding Traffic Noise
  7. 1:07:12Balanced Founder Life

Topics covered

  • Data-Driven PR Strategy
  • Journalist Relationship Building

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Transcript excerpt

first things first what's uh like what are some of the most successful pr campaigns you've seen like what does it look like if you actually do pr well yeah so um one of the most successful ones and i i'm not gonna go and talk about huge brands because people who are listening to this they don't have a huge brand right they're trying to get their brand well known uh but there's a there's a company out there called fractal and they uh sort of do pr for many different brands um there uh was a study that they ran for uh mathematics kind of like statistician firm that um they essentially uh we're trying to figure out it's it's a little company right and all they do is they crunch numbers how can they get pr it's just a consulting firm like it's so boring and so what they did is they picked something very specific which was hey we're gonna go out and we're gonna find in subways we're gonna fin…